William Penwell

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  Unconditional Love in the organization and congregations...

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

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  this is so true i couldn't have said it better!!!.

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  Yeah I know too well that when I started to fade these good JW "unconditional" love kicks in. They treat you like you have the plague or something like that.
  
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

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  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  You know what your getting into by posting your real name that's up to you. Like the above posters were mentioning that you have had a lot of problems with your JW wife, so you may want to really think over your decision. Myself I was very careful what I posted on here when my parents were still alive. Now I really don't care if they know who I am.
  
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  This ain't your grandaddy's GB.

  by cappytan in

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  this ain't your grandaddy's governing body!.

  dubs have been saying this a lot lately in my area.

  i haven't said this yet, but all i can think is, "yeah, i wonder if that's what xtians were thinking after the apostles died back in the day.

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  The early WT had a board of directors but the GB as we know it didn't come in till the 70's. I think the big reason why it has changed is because up until the last 10 years it was run by a bunch of 80+ year old men. Now most of the GB are 50-60 age group.
  
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  Embrace Judeo-Christian culture and values! Is this politician serious?

  by Gnostic Bishop in

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  embrace judeo-christian culture and values!

  is this politician serious?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h2ed8a8rxey.

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  Having Judeo-Christian culture and values does not make a society moral. Some of the most immoral and despicable acts have being done by Judeo-Christian countries.
  
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  2014 increase in Memorial Partakers to 14,121

  by jwfacts in

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  i have updated the article at memorial partakers with the figures released for 2014. no surprises here, it has risen yet again, this time by 6% over last year, and is now 14,121.. .

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  I can recall one memorial the elder giving the talk went into a lengthy explanation on to what it means to be one of the anointed. The reason was is that the previous year there was an increase in partakers and he wanted anyone that would partake fully aware of their decision. I don't know if this was a direction from the society or he took it on himself. The other reason was that at that time the society taught that was a sign of the end as not many of the 144,000 were to survive the big A. Times have changed.

  I agree on the posters that said that a lot of them are mentally or emotionally imbalanced. The few memorial partakers I knew over the years, most of them were not right in the head and the other ones were a little delusional. 
  

  
  
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  Jehovah's Witness pi$$ing contest

  by hoser in

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  ok more about the jw wedding i attended.

  there were these two couples at our dinner table that were having an all out pissing competition as to who was the most spiritual.

  they were comparing who was in "the truth" the longest, who pioneered where and for how long.

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  They get that honestly from the borg where anything that you do is never good enough for them.
  
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  The WBATS has officially become a Fortune 500 company they are going public Monday buy your shares soon while they LAST!!!

  by ADJUSTMENTS in

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  with the recent leak and viewing of the elders video on the new standard construction kingdumb halls the rank & file brobots have officially become employees of a billion dollar publishing and now real estate company, equipped with 7 ceo's and many businessmen as shrewd and as money hungry as any rival fortune 500 company.. the new kingdumb halls look like (i have to give it to them) expertly designed commercial properties that any major office, restuarant or commercial leasing company would package as a ultra versatile space!!!

  the old kingdumb halls where a tough resale to the general public because of the custom designing aspects of the old kingdumb halls.

  they have completely done away with that issue with these new versatile properties which can be converted to an office/restaurant/repair garage/clinic.

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  They sound like a bunch of sleazy salesmen. Also why does Stephen Lett sound like he is a little slow?
  

  Splash got it right I think that Stephen Lett is a condescending buffoon or I would say Pr....
  
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  The best reasonable, rational, intelligent discussion on religion I've ever seen

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6e4emx-4k

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  I listened to the interview with Reza Aslan. A couple of points I noted. He said that the scholar Josephus refers to Jesus. This passage is believed to have been added centuries later by Christian scholars.  When he refers to the gospel accounts he says, "The Gospel accounts are based on revealing truths, not facts". Again the statement doesn't make sense. It comes down to believing something based on faith not facts. I like how he also said there were dozens of messiahs during the time of Jesus that were all persecuted and crucified. Like the interviewer added, why was this man Jesus any more special?   
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  Mom says, "CO says there's only 15 years left!"

  by Separation of Powers in

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  i don't typically hear from my mom often, but i tell you, over the past couple of weeks, i have heard from her several times.

  you heard the comment about "our way of worship will be altered" and thank you for your posts by the way....but yesterday, she calls and is asking about the kids and then, in typical jw fashion mind you, says:.

  "you know, you should really get back to meetings.

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  The strange thing is that all us ex-JWs have vivid memories of it all and yet if you ask current JWs about it they will feign having no recollection whatsoever.

  I can recall a discussion about the 1975 thing with my sister and her version of what happened was very different than mine. They say memory is not reliable as it is very selective. I think from my sisters point of view she only remembers the positive things about the religion and chooses subconsciously to forget the negative things. Again when a person has two conflicting belief systems going on, they will choose one or the other. It is a social network for them and to know admit that their train of thought is wrong they would have to deny the last 50 - 60 years of their belief system.

  That CO that said the 15 years time line I would say is someone that is now in the 50 to 70 age group and knows his days are numbered. I would say it is his ego and the fear of death that he thinks he is that important that this world cannot exist without him. I think that is the only way he can go on pushing the religion. I did notice with my parents although they would never admit it, we were not supposed to die in this system, the last few years of their life when they knew the reality was that they were going to die, I noticed that it was like their spirit was crushed. I know to their grave they never gave up the hope but it is so sad to think that all your life you chase a dream only to realize in the end it was all a lie.
  

  
  
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  Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

  over 2 minutes of pranking .

  as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

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  I did not read all 13 pages of posts on here but skimmed through some of the comments. I have to agree with the posters that felt that a great opportunity was wasted on asking some serious questions and getting some answers. Now it just makes the ex JW's look bad in the eyes of maybe some fence sitters. You know the WT will not waste a moment on this to twist it to make them look good. i.e. these evil apostates verbally attacking one of the Governing Body members. It would just justify their reasoning that they are being persecuted in the name of Jehovah thus they must have the truth.